more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. [ crowd cheering, mouse clicks ] >>> welcome back to "morning joe." a foggy day in washington. and mike barnicle's asleep. or reading the paper or something in new york. gosh. look at him! it's ridiculous. >> they gave him a lounge chair. seriously? look at that. >> it's embarrassing. >> what are you going to do? >> all right, sam stein and bob woodward still with us. joining us, former national security adviser for president carter, dr. zbigniew brzezinski, author of "strategic vision." >> we've got a debate tonight, dr. brzezinski. we just have to go back, it's too rich, 1976. where were you when gerald ford famously declared that the soviets were not occupying poland, and how high was the chair that you fell out of when you heard it? >> listen, i didn't fall out of a chair. i started elevating. i was with the president, the subsequent president, the president who won the election in san francisco. and the moment gerald ford sai